{"id":3192,"date":"2011-06-22T16:44:04","date_gmt":"2011-06-22T14:44:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ungparty.net\/blog\/?p=3192"},"modified":"2025-07-12T05:59:01","modified_gmt":"2025-07-12T04:59:01","slug":"csonge_weores","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/ungparty.net\/blog\/2011\/csonge_weores\/","title":{"rendered":"Cs\u00f6nge, We\u00f6res"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-3211 size-full\" style=\"margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; margin-right: 6px;\" title=\"Cs\u00f6nge h\u00edrei\" src=\"http:\/\/ungparty.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/csoe.jpg\" alt=\"cs\u00f6nge h\u00edrei\" width=\"207\" height=\"162\" \/>J\u00f3val a sz\u00fclet\u00e9se el\u0151tt eld\u00f6nt\u00f6tt\u00fck: ha l\u00e1ny, akkor Cs\u00f6nge. Illetve Csenge. Illetve m\u00e9gis Cs\u00f6nge. Kicsit bonyolult&#8230; A <a title=\"ut\u00f3n\u00e9vk\u00f6nvy\" href=\"https:\/\/moly.hu\/konyvek\/lado-janos-magyar-utonevkonyv\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Lad\u00f3-f\u00e9le ut\u00f3n\u00e9vk\u00f6nyvben<\/a> akkor csak Csenge alakban szerepelt &#8211; mint Magyarorsz\u00e1gon anyak\u00f6nyvezhet\u0151 n\u00e9v. (A mostani hivatalos jegyz\u00e9kben egy\u00e9bk\u00e9nt m\u00e1r a Cs\u00f6nge is benne van.) Na de mi\u00e9rt vonatkozna r\u00e1nk a magyarorsz\u00e1gi szab\u00e1ly, itt lehet Cs\u00f6nge is. Ukrajn\u00e1ban ekkoriban nagyj\u00e1b\u00f3l az a n\u00e9v volt anyak\u00f6nyvezhet\u0151, amelynek a l\u00e9tjogosults\u00e1g\u00e1r\u00f3l siker\u00fclt meggy\u0151zni a Hivatalt.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">A Kolosba 1985-ban m\u00e9g nagyon belek\u00f6t\u00f6ttek. Hogy elfogadtassuk, a nagyapja (mint f\u0151szerkeszt\u0151 \u00e9s \u00edr\u00f3sz\u00f6vets\u00e9gi tag) szem\u00e9lyes felel\u0151ss\u00e9get v\u00e1llalva \u00edr\u00e1sba adta, hogy l\u00e9tezik ilyen magyar n\u00e9v. Elfogadt\u00e1k. Cs\u00f6ng\u00e9vel 1988-ban m\u00e1r nem volt ilyen gond. Viszont az orosz \u00e9s ukr\u00e1n nyelvb\u0151l hi\u00e1nyzik az \u00f6 hang, \u00edgy k\u00e9nyszer\u0171en cirill bet\u0171vel \u0427\u0435\u043d\u0433\u0435 lett, vagyis m\u00e9gis Csenge. De mi magyarul kezdett\u0151l Cs\u00f6ng\u00e9nek h\u00edvtuk. T\u00f6bb okb\u00f3l is. Az els\u0151 \u00e9rv, hogy \u00edgy sokkal jobban hangzik, nincs benne a k\u00e9t azonos hangz\u00f3 miatti egyhang\u00fas\u00e1g,\u00a0 \u00e9s k\u00fcl\u00f6nben is, az az els\u0151 e ott bizonyosan z\u00e1rt e, vagyis \u00eb, s mint ilyen kis szegedis\u00e9ggel am\u00fagy is \u00f6-nek ejtend\u0151 (l\u00e1nys\u00e1g\u00e1t Szegeden t\u00f6lt\u0151 any\u00e1m nagy megel\u00e9ged\u00e9s\u00e9re). A nyom\u00f3sabb \u00e9rv irodalomt\u00f6rt\u00e9neti. We\u00f6res S\u00e1ndor, mint k\u00f6ztudott, Cs\u00f6nge k\u00f6zs\u00e9gben sz\u00fcletett, \u00e9s k\u00f6lt\u00e9szete n\u00e1lunk a legmagasabb polcon \u00e1llt: egyenes \u00e9s \u00e1tvitt \u00e9rtelemben egyar\u00e1nt. Ugyanis, amikor \u00c9v\u00e1val aff\u00e9le el\u0151-n\u00e1sz\u00faton voltunk Szuhumiban, akkor az ottani idegen nyelv\u0171 k\u00f6nyvesboltban (a Druzsba-h\u00e1l\u00f3zat, aki m\u00e9g eml\u00e9kszik r\u00e1!) \u00e9ppen We\u00f6res h\u00e1rom vastag k\u00f6tet\u00e9t v\u00e1s\u00e1roltuk meg (az ungv\u00e1ri Druzsb\u00e1ban nem volt kaphat\u00f3), s ezek a vastag t\u00f3muszok gyerekeink sz\u00fclet\u00e9sekor m\u00e1r ott magaslottak kis\u00e1gyuk felett a polc tetej\u00e9n. Ha ehhez m\u00e9g hozz\u00e1vessz\u00fck, hogy l\u00e1nyunk sz\u00fclet\u00e9se el\u0151tt Kolos gyakorlatilag We\u00f6res-verseken n\u0151tt fel, akkor tal\u00e1n a n\u00e9vv\u00e1laszt\u00e1st nem is kell magyar\u00e1znunk.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00c1m a sz\u00e9pen cseng\u0151 Cs\u00f6nge-n\u00e9v okozott k\u00e9s\u0151bb probl\u00e9m\u00e1kat. Az m\u00e9g hagyj\u00e1n, hogy oroszul Csenge volt, de ukr\u00e1nul &#8211; azaz a most \u00e1rv\u00e9nyes \u00e1llamnyelven &#8211; viszont <strong>Csenhe<\/strong> lett: ez az ejt\u00e9se a le\u00edrt sz\u00f3alaknak. Enn\u00e9l cifr\u00e1bb, hogy \u00fatlevel\u00e9ben, sz\u00e9p itteni szok\u00e1s szerint, a cirill alakot nemzetk\u00f6zi transzkripci\u00f3s szab\u00e1lyok szerint \u00edrj\u00e1k \u00e1t latin bet\u0171ss\u00e9, s \u00edgy <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-3198 size-full\" style=\"margin-top: 6px; margin-left: 6px;\" title=\"Cs\u00f6nge fot\u00f3i\" src=\"http:\/\/ungparty.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/cs_geppel.jpg\" alt=\"cs\u00f6nge fot\u00f3\" width=\"111\" height=\"175\" \/><strong>Chenhe<\/strong> lett bel\u0151le. S mivel minden magyarorsz\u00e1gi okm\u00e1ny\u00e1t az ukr\u00e1n \u00fatlev\u00e9l alapj\u00e1n \u00e1ll\u00edtott\u00e1k ki, \u00edgy ezeken is ez a n\u00e9valak szerepel. (Az ELT\u00c9-s egyetemi tan\u00fcgyi int\u00e9z\u0151 ezt tov\u00e1bb egyszer\u0171s\u00edtette \u00e9s \u00f6t \u00e9ven \u00e1t \u00fagy h\u00edvta: Cene.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00c1m a kisebb bossz\u00fas\u00e1gok mellett szerzett ez a n\u00e9v \u00e9rdekes \u00e9lm\u00e9nyeket is. Els\u0151\u00fcl az jut eszembe, hogy j\u00f3 p\u00e1r \u00e9vvel ezel\u0151tt, amikor m\u00e1r komolyabban blogoltam, s ek\u00f6zben persze gyakran le\u00edrtam l\u00e1nyunk nev\u00e9t, akkor egy szolnoki k\u00f6nyvt\u00e1ros fiatalember \u00e9ppen emiatt tal\u00e1lt oldalamra. Neki ugyanis a vezet\u00e9kneve volt Cs\u00f6nge, s neve eredete ut\u00e1n kutatva bukkant r\u00e1nk, fel is vett\u00fck a kapcsolatot, akkoriban legszorgalmasabb olvas\u00f3mm\u00e1 v\u00e1lt, budapesti dedik\u00e1ci\u00f3mra is elj\u00f6tt.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Egy frissebb \u00e9rdekess\u00e9g: F\u0171zfa Bal\u00e1zs irodalomt\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u00e9sszel \u00fcl\u00fcnk egy \u00e9tteremben valahol Szombathely k\u00f6zel\u00e9ben 2009-ben: mi \u00e9ppen Ausztri\u00e1ba tartunk (\u00c9v\u00e1val \u00e9s Cs\u00f6ng\u00e9vel), s Bal\u00e1zzsal itt randev\u00fazunk, legink\u00e1bb az\u00e9rt, hogy \u00e1tadja nekem a vezet\u00e9se alatt \u00e1ll\u00f3 kiad\u00f3 gondoz\u00e1s\u00e1ban megjelent <a title=\"Harmadvalaki - versek\" href=\"https:\/\/sites.google.com\/site\/balladkaroly\/k%C3%B6nyvek\/harmadvalaki\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">k\u00f6nyvem<\/a> tiszteletp\u00e9ld\u00e1nyait. M\u00e1r a bemutatkoz\u00e1skor felkapja a fej\u00e9t l\u00e1nyunk neve hallat\u00e1n, de csak k\u00e9s\u0151bb k\u00e9rdez r\u00e1: \u00e9s azt tudjuk, hogy We\u00f6res&#8230; Mit gondolsz, mi\u00e9rt lett \u00e9ppen Cs\u00f6nge? &#8211; k\u00e9rdezek vissza. Fej\u00e9hez kap: h\u00e1t akkor ott, Cs\u00f6ng\u00e9n kellett volna tal\u00e1lkoznunk, alig p\u00e1r kilom\u00e9ternyire vagyunk az Eml\u00e9kh\u00e1zt\u00f3l.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">S a leg\u00fajabb, internetes furcsas\u00e1g: a <em>hirei.net<\/em> honlapcsal\u00e1d, felteszem, automatikusan olvassa be azokat a h\u00edreket \u00e9s blogbejegyz\u00e9seket, amelyekben az egyes telep\u00fcl\u00e9sek neve el\u0151fordul. A Cs\u00f6nge h\u00edrei oldal sem tud k\u00fcl\u00f6nbs\u00e9get tenni a k\u00f6zs\u00e9gn\u00e9v \u00e9s a keresztn\u00e9v k\u00f6z\u00f6tt, \u00edgy az \u00e9n blogbejegyz\u00e9seim k\u00f6z\u00fcl is kilist\u00e1zza azokat, amelyekben Cs\u00f6ng\u00e9r\u0151l \u00edrok (ezt teszi majd a mostanival is). \u00cdgy aki We\u00f6res sz\u00fcl\u0151faluj\u00e1nak \u00fajdons\u00e1gait b\u00f6ng\u00e9szi, \u00f3hatatlanul a mi csal\u00e1di h\u00edreinkkel is tal\u00e1lkozik.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">P\u00e9ld\u00e1ul azzal, hogy Cs\u00f6nge tegnap jelesre diplom\u00e1zott: a szakdolgozata v\u00e9d\u00e9se \u00e9s az \u00e1llamvizsg\u00e1ja egyar\u00e1nt 5-re siker\u00fclt. Err\u0151l ez\u00faton \u00f6r\u00f6mmel \u00e9rtes\u00edtj\u00fck eg\u00e9sz Cs\u00f6nge lakoss\u00e1g\u00e1t! S k\u00f6zben b\u00edzunk abban, hogy a diplom\u00e1j\u00e1ra siker\u00fcl magyarul r\u00e1\u00edratnia a nev\u00e9t.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ungparty.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/cs_n.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-3200 size-full\" style=\"margin-top: 6px; margin-right: 6px;\" title=\"Cs\u00f6nge pici\" src=\"http:\/\/ungparty.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/cs_n.jpg\" alt=\"cs\u00f6nge kicsi\" width=\"114\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a>Ezzel a kis po\u00e9nnal be is fejezhetn\u00e9m. De a v\u00e9g\u00e9re hagytam egy tov\u00e1bbi irodalmi adal\u00e9kot. Amikor We\u00f6res S\u00e1ndor 1989-ben meghalt, Cs\u00f6nge m\u00e9g igen pici l\u00e1nyka volt. Nekem pedig k\u00e9sztet\u00e9sem sz\u00fcletett, hogy Sanyi b\u00e1csit\u00f3l valahogyan elb\u00facs\u00fazzam. S mi m\u00e1sk\u00e9nt tehettem volna, mint versben. Sz\u00e1momra eml\u00e9kezetes utols\u00f3 telev\u00edzi\u00f3s interj\u00faj\u00e1t felid\u00e9zve \u00edrtam az al\u00e1bbi szonettet. (Amely egy\u00e9bk\u00e9nt a We\u00f6res-rajong\u00f3 m\u0171ford\u00edt\u00f3nak, Jurij Skrobinec annyira megtetszett, hogy \u00e1t\u00fcltette ukr\u00e1nra.) Az pedig tal\u00e1n mondanom sem kell, hogy a szonettemb\u0151l Cs\u00f6nge sem maradhatott ki:<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify; padding-left: 60px;\">Mad\u00e1rhangon<\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; padding-left: 90px;\"><em>Utols\u00f3 interj\u00fa a telev\u00edzi\u00f3ban We\u00f6res S\u00e1ndorral<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\"><em>A kertben, k\u00f6nny\u0171 sz\u00e9lre rebben\u0151n,<\/em><br \/>\n<em>mad\u00e1rhangon besz\u00e9l a k\u00f6lt\u0151, halkan,<\/em><br \/>\n<em>nem is besz\u00e9l, csak lengedez egy dalban,<\/em><br \/>\n<em>id\u0151n k\u00edv\u00fcl (egy \u0151sz\u00f6n, t\u00e9lel\u0151n?) &#8211; &#8211;\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\"><em>hunyorg a szem, csuk\u00f3zik f\u00e9ny el\u0151l,<\/em><br \/>\n<em>el\u0151vet\u00fcl a r\u00e9g volt, akkor, hajdan &#8211;<\/em><br \/>\n<em>\u00e9s botlik a sz\u00f3 a g\u00e9gef\u0151-kanyarban,<\/em><br \/>\n<em>\u00e9s r\u00e9ved\u00e9s vall minden m\u00falt fel\u0151l. &#8211; &#8211;<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\"><em>Hov\u00e1 mered ilyenkor \u00e9gi m\u00e1sod,<\/em><br \/>\n<em>am\u00edg kering az \u0171ri k\u00e9pzelet?<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Hov\u00e1 mer\u00fclnek v\u00e9gs\u0151 \u00e1lmod\u00e1sok,<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\"><em>mikor egy angyal sz\u00e1ll a kert felett? &#8211; &#8211;<\/em><br \/>\n<em>\u2026 \u00c9s \u00edm, el\u00e9r a hallgat\u00e1sok cs\u00f6ndje\u2026<\/em><br \/>\n<em>(\u00c1lm\u00e1b\u00f3l felriad le\u00e1nyom, Cs\u00f6nge.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">(1989)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">We\u00f6r\u00f6s S\u00e1ndor ma, j\u00fanius 22-\u00e9n lenne 98 \u00e9ves.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Friss\u00edt\u00e9s: a dolog bej\u00f6tt. Kis k\u00e9s\u00e9ssel ugyan, de a Cs\u00f6nge-port\u00e1l k\u00f6zz\u00e9tette a h\u00edrt Cs\u00f6nge jeles diplom\u00e1z\u00e1s\u00e1r\u00f3l; l\u00e1sd: <a href=\"http:\/\/bdk.blog.hu\/2011\/07\/30\/csonge_hirei\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cs\u00f6nge h\u00edrei<\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>M\u00e1s: Internet &#8211; Google &#8211; Honlap<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>J\u00f3val a sz\u00fclet\u00e9se el\u0151tt eld\u00f6nt\u00f6tt\u00fck: ha l\u00e1ny, akkor Cs\u00f6nge. Illetve Csenge. Illetve m\u00e9gis Cs\u00f6nge. Kicsit bonyolult&#8230; A Lad\u00f3-f\u00e9le ut\u00f3n\u00e9vk\u00f6nyvben akkor csak Csenge alakban szerepelt &#8211; mint Magyarorsz\u00e1gon anyak\u00f6nyvezhet\u0151 n\u00e9v. (A mostani hivatalos jegyz\u00e9kben egy\u00e9bk\u00e9nt m\u00e1r a Cs\u00f6nge is benne van.) Na de mi\u00e9rt vonatkozna r\u00e1nk a magyarorsz\u00e1gi szab\u00e1ly, itt lehet Cs\u00f6nge is. Ukrajn\u00e1ban ekkoriban nagyj\u00e1b\u00f3l &#8230; <a title=\"Cs\u00f6nge, We\u00f6res\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"http:\/\/ungparty.net\/blog\/2011\/csonge_weores\/\" aria-label=\"Tov\u00e1bbi inform\u00e1ci\u00f3 err\u0151l: Cs\u00f6nge, We\u00f6res\">Olvass tov\u00e1bb<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[25,32,47,71,92],"class_list":["post-3192","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bdk-naplo","tag-csonge","tag-ex","tag-irodalom","tag-naplo-2","tag-szemelyes"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.4 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Cs\u00f6nge neve. Csenge - Chenhe - \u0427\u0435\u043d\u0433\u0435. We\u00f6res S\u00e1ndor Cs\u00f6nge k\u00f6zs\u00e9gben sz\u00fcletett. F\u0171zfa Bal\u00e1zs irodalomt\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u00e9sz. 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